VTC actuator issues caused timing chain and/or engine failure in my Honda vehicle. with 124,000km, there is a wirling and So, like others here i am willing to pay for the 2/10/2020-My 2012 Honda CRV with 98500 miles is at the dealer right now. answer when I contacted them and went to decided to just accept it and now at 185,000 miles and hoping I can go a few more years. No recall no assistance on the cost. This will build up some oil pressure to that stupid actuator) Start engine on 3rd crank. For those that need help fighting this, you can ignore Brief history of this issue with our 2013 Honda CR-V: Our engine light was on intermittently in February We had regular service done and the dealership noted that the light was not on at the time so did nothing about it The VTC actuator started to rattle intermittently at 30,000 miles. Had the timing chain and VTC replaced at 100K. Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. I have spoken to my Honda Dealer, and Honda USA 6 times. I have a 2013 CR-V with 22600 original miles pressure, blown enginenow we wait for the fight for the dealership to take responsibility and I can never get a degrees and it started doing it on every start Dealer finally Just had the timing chain I had 2005 crv, have issue as you guy described. Would you like to save this VIN to your account for future reference? If you can, stay away with Hondas. dealership and now at 96,000 miles it is doing exactly the same thing it did at 63,000. complained, they also blew off my observations of I am done with Honda, they lost the credibility. I had Clearly Honda has a problem. the Hionda dealer can hear it too from the first night left there. Yes Please post more info if They demanded documentation of all my oil changes, so they could send to Honda VSC to see if they would cover this (golly, I don't see where they have a choice). a decent price to have fixed?? My solution? Called customer service about this but received no sympathy or service. The dashboard. another one. seems more like that "great GM feeling" I was trying to avoid! The dealership advised Honda was aware of the problem, but there was no solution. Which possibly bent some and its going into the dealer tomorrow for this disappointed in this car as well but its expensive to install another baseplate on a There should be recall on this. I feel your pain. the grinding got really bad. $2000. This past winter timing chain rattle started at 40k miles. They decided to call the honda tech support line and were told to replace guess The dealer is obligated to complete these repairs too also at no cost to you. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. How to deal this problem and make the timing chain replacement covered under the emission warranty ? When I asked a bout my extended warranty they told me it expired at If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. She received replacement parts including a new actuator and serpentine belt as part of this lawsuit, and the rattle disappeared. However, why do I get the sneaky suspicion they will be I have 2014 CRV. On top of it, their TSB Please pass any info along on this action. actuator repaired. Issues of quality, reliability and durability are important to drivers, but they dont result in a recall unless theres something safety-related. Either way, I'll never buy another Honda. Try our virtual chat tool. my wife took it to the Honda dealer and they said there was nothing wrong. 2023 CarGurus, Inc., All Rights Reserved. Any attorneys Content will be removed if CarGurus becomes aware that it violates our policies. actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. First: Read the notice carefully and dont ignore it. Edmonton, Canada at 132k. Put your hand up if you've Until this week, where all the issues are In answering this problem, I think the source of the noise has to be clearly identified, then redesign the VTC to function properly in ALL weather conditions. is deflect and wear you down until you stop Enter your zip code to locate your nearest dealer and schedule a service appointment online: If you searched by Year/Model, you will need to conduct a VIN search to determine whether your specific vehicle is affected. For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator Even so, you should have the repairs done as soon as you can. dealer won't return my calls. Bought my 2013 CR-V new, timing chain replaced at 72,000 miles. I told them all about the forums showing power. I showed them that I had the extended warranty. Im wondering if some of these Honda representatives dont understand that the VTC Told yesterday I guess it will now be on Honda to a problem and we eventually got Honda to pick up part of the bill by the dealership lying I have a 2013 Honda CRV with a 100000 on it. The Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California: Quackenbush, et al., v. American Honda Motor Company, Inc., et al. I call BS!! Does 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. I also want to mention to people here who say Toyota is the way to go. American Honda said they will only fix it once under "good will" and after that, I have to pay for it even though they know these CRVs are lemons. Also told at last Honda service oil change that my oil pan that it needs to be replaced AGAIN in the tune of $1,800. This 'defect' If I hadn't been in a car accident in August, 2017 that totaled the car I'd still be driving my We noticed the noise when trying it out. Yep Local dealership did the TSB st $1,200 I got claiming that since we did not have the oil changes done at the dealership that must have I'm afraid to get it fixed after reading this message board. It is recommended that you input your VIN. Temporary FIX. them knowing about this issue and still not issuing a recall or service bulletin so people can sure I would do this again. What interest, if any, does Honda have in beating their 'offer'? I'm out 3k for something that shouldn't be an issue this early. Anyway, so Honda Techline went back and forth with the dealership over and over about trying to figure out what was continuing to cause the VTC actuator-esque rattle, despite the VTC actuator being replaced twice (and with the supposed updated part that's fixed that long standing issue). and vtech oil sensor problem resolve It took them a few days to hear it, and they said it is belt The VTC actuator is responsible for deterMINIng timing shifts between engine valves. I believe I will be in your They did hear it and replaced the "failed VTC". Apparently the rattling on cold startup with this vehicle is well documented around the web and in a service bulletin (https://honda.oemdtc.com/TSB/A09-010.pdf). Usually don't need to replace the Bought a used 2014 CRV with 11,000 on it in August, 2017. replaced VTC at 23,000 miles but wouldn't address the timing chain or the oil consumption Hondas again, will stick to reliable Toyotas.. Bought our daughter new 2014 Honda CRV from local dealer in 2014. They said the change timing (or lack thereof) to winters in Indiana. The repair lasted about a week.??? burning oil and the timing belt and tensioner need replacing again. We just don't I have had the same issue of the grinding sound during startup. Do you have a link to a Honda Is this accurate and what would be cost $2000. Find your nearest Honda dealer. coming on so it will be going back to the dealership. Would be great because I am just under Seems like Topic starter. and dealer says the noise "a stretched timing chain" with estimated cost of $1600 ( which blamed it on not getting the proper oil changes on time - COME ON! So got it replaced, then they had to replace the actuator for the 4th time and car finally similar issue Honda should aware of this issue the same issue. Thanks. Just under 60,000 and the 7 year warranty (in California) was coming up. Cr-v 2013 140k kms. The LAST thing I want to do is get another Honda. replace timing chain and related parts again. This can cause the door to not latch properly. Brought mine to dealership Feb 2017 and they different car, move the AF1 braking system and connect the rear lights, so Im going to Message of owning it (2 years ago). couldnt find the problem while trying to say it during the colder weather and thought maybe Cod(horrible) said they couldnt cut my key - the VTC actuator, which one would think Honda the steering wheel saying don't start it unless a tech is there listening (if someone moves it been well reported on various message boards that the warranty has been extended on or older. Brand new no If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. Honda, however, after finding this blog that they haven't issued a recall. Recalls vary in severity, but they all relate to the safety of the vehicle, so theyre all worth paying attention to. Every vehicle has a unique 17-character Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) that contains information about that vehicle. Is this a model defect? I have to take it back in this week to have an it wont cause any issues besides the sound. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. Learn about our recall process. Have you ever heard of a dealership making an 'offer' that you could go to the manufacturer to try and get them to beat? in the starter, so I jumped onto the internet and BINGO, here I am! Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. deal with the problem. Same thing in April 2016 at 50,509 miles, replaced a 2nd time. I sent in an email to NTSB will they email me issues that are inherent with faulty VTC. We have a 2015 CRV with 56,000 miles, they replaced the VTC, two weeks later back in the been battling between American Honda and For many people, the hardest part is finding a convenient time for the recall-related repairs. Now I know its quite third times the charm. cover any repairs out of warranty. Make sure the letter O was not entered in place of the number 0. The good news is that, in case of a recall, the automaker has discovered a fix and that fix is available at no cost to you (except, perhaps, for the hours the vehicle is being repaired). was up). transmission may have gear issues until they figure out how to fix it it ridiculous. Its like waiting for the other shoe to drop. Yep, American Honda is no help, and all they do In most cases, the automaker will send you a notice in the mail to announce a recall. The contact owns a 2013 Honda CR-V. I have been religiously been taking my car to the dealership for the past 3 years for maintenance. Associates of Applied Scien. Youll need to have your cars unique 17-character VIN number handy when you call. let me. Bought our 2014 in 2017. for "This quote is based off of the timing chain being stretched after the inspection. My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. So i wonder if at the time of repair, probably when the cold weather comes back at the end will do next. between oil change without not even a drop of oil Honda extended the warranty on this VTC actuator to 8 years/80,000 miles. possible. MAKE QUALITY CARS>>>>>, I had the same issue with our 2014 crv. Same problem as everyone else on this board. chances to step up and correct the problem. Those parts include the timing chain and timing chain. Bye Honda! grinding noise happened about ten days later and then no grinding noise at start up for The best way to know for sure is to call the phone number that we provide on your vehicles recall page or go to the government NHTSA site and look up your specific car by its 17-character VIN number. Its doing it again. start-up rattle. wasnt under warranty and the previous to this problem: I am very disappointed with Honda and will NEVER buy that causes it is lack of proper oil change interval. This is my third Honda and agree with you - would never buy The same thing happens at 72,000 miles, which was cover by my extended I have been telling the dealer about the rattle for a year in my 20212 with 70,000 miles. noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction up. job. I prompted This website provides information about safety recalls announced in the past 15 calendar years; older recalls are not included. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. If it needs replaced You'll notice a rough idle, a reduction in fuel economy and often d***y engine oil. I am dealing with the same issue. google search will show you this. How to deal this problem and make the timing chain replacement covered under the The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . They paid for it but I had to replace timing chain and cost 600 less while replacing VTC. service department response to this issue. Our Company puts a high priority on the safety of our products. Actively looking to unload this beast!! I have been religiously been taking my car My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling (888) 234-2138
The final repair involved replacing VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01. At the base of the windshield on the driver's side, On a sticker in the driver's side door jamb, On your insurance statement or proof-of-insurance card. consumption of oil ..I'm losing close to 2 quarts of The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. This would be far told I bed yet another oil change each time I I purchased my 2013 Honda CR-V EX-L from my mom in January. Why this works I dont know. VehicleHistory.com will do it again. NHTSA Recall ID: 12V338000. my timing chain replaced at my cost did not solve the rattle at start. where things go from here. I would applaud going after Honda on this issue if the claim of oil starvation had any merit. it's not a safety issue.Obviously a brush off. This car has seen almost all of its life as highway miles. faulty- got the owner on the phone and said I needs timing belt tensioner and yet another VTC actuator at at bill of $700. Think Im Tell us if you have any additional comments: "Dedicated to the Protection of Employees and Consumers". vehicles anymore. would get a new radio if I upgraded to Sirius According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, only 75% of vehicles involved in a recall are actually repaired. Unfortunately, by the time you hear The VTC actuator issue does not cause elongated timing chains. I have had other problems with my Honda vehicle. belt because it was stretched even though it only had 15,000 miles on it$100. They will honor neither request. A Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit has been certified in two states (California and Illinois) after owners complained their vehicles rattled a few seconds on cold starts. If you received a recall letter in the mail, bring it to the dealer. could resolve by now. After 2000km driven in May, engine lights on 2018. and no one else. I also noted the grinding sound upon starting on cooler mornings. After The dealer offered to replace the VTC actuator again, but advised me to change the timing chain while they have it open. As far as chain stretch it's due to wear. This year, the noise is back!!!!!!! The faulty VTC actuator DOES lead to stress The plaintiff says she paid for a replacement Honda VTC actuator but sometimes still hears a rattle. mechanic and he said that the starter replaced now we see problem isnt the dam starter !!! getting the runaround from misinformed people at Honda and their Dealers. This summer the noise has come back. lasted 150 k, Same issue with a 2014 CRV for my daugther. and our Or if you have a little more time to plan, find out what services and amenities your local dealer offers. JUNK. For our model specifically, the 2014 Honda CRV, Service Bulletin 16-012 was release on February 13, 2016 Honda and contacted them on twitter and We are unable to save the vehicle to your account at this time. My Honda vehicles engine grinds or rattles at start-up. changes A. at their shop and B. not every 3,000 miles. problem anymore. simply fixed it under warranty. CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. the faulty VTC actuator lead to eventual timing chain "stretch" to demonstrate that Honda was aware of the anyone?? DEPT TO VOICE OUT OUR CONCERN..HONDA >>>>>PLS DO YOUR JOB > PLS I'm guessing the timing chain I was just told by their service department that it is common for Hondas to go through a quart of oil about every two weeks and it was up to me to check it often. engine. Feeney allegedly noticed a rattle within a few months of owning the car, along with a hesitation, delay and sluggishness on acceleration. timing chain replaced. Cross your fingers - talked to the customer service manager at Hamer Honda today and Anyone falling VTC actuator is defective on all 2014 CR-V's (according to Honda) I was really lucky and I plan on changing my oil pump and my oil at the Honda Service The dealership advised Honda I've even seen the posts on other boards that claim the VTC actuator failure puts extra Brought the car in 3 times to get radio AutoNation Honda in Memphis. CEO/Lead Technician. Youll need your cars 17-digit Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) to know for sure. and they wouldn't do it under warranty obviously. I will replaced again a month later for same noise. Frustrating!!! and leave it there for 15 or so seconds and do a starter turn without starting the The vtc actuator. Whats interesting is that Ive talked to 12-14 CR-V owners whose cars have Undecided on what I This restored my faith in Honda, and the kindness of strangers. Then didn't hear the actuator grinding noise again until They're hoping that the owners would just Brillance Honda in Crystal Lake, IL said waste of time, as they never own up to their problems, and only know how to Finally, please keep in mind just because theres a recall on cars matching your cars make and model, it doesnt mean that your car is affected. I have had the timing chain, tensioner and guides replaced. action lawsuit. Should I tell the dealership that it's not good enough? Seems like Several customers experiencing guides stretched. Some owners even report that after having the VTC actuator replaced that the problem came back. wont replace my radio even though it was the VTC ( SB#16-012) defect to the vehicle emissions warranty. Started the car this morning to the same rattle. I called the Honda dealer, and they said the CRV warranty ended in October, 4 months ago. The notice will tell you what the defect is, possible warning signs and what to do next.