I need attribution not for sale, but for museum exhibit. A number of opinions have been provided, some with hints of the issues. I liked the look of the Type 32 but all I've found was deepeeka. This example has a matching serial number 55250 on both the blade and the throat of the scabbard. If the blade is aluminum, the sword is not This law exempts antique firearms from any form of gun control or special engineering. Please quote item reference S72 (0690). If the blade is not sharp all the way to the habaki does not assure it is a WW II era blade, but is All Images and Text Copyright 2003-2023 International Military Antiques Inc. All Rights Reserved. Seppa intergrated in the fuchi is a no go here. Be the first to know of our latest discoveries and exclusive offers. Collectible Japanese Katanas, Japanese WWII Swords, Japanese Straight Razor, Japanese Tea Cup; Additional site navigation. But machine made swords like this one do not have the accuracy of manufacturing that enable the Habaki to perform such a function. Something went wrong. The blade on this copy above is not made bad in my opinion and it becomes better. Posted October 27, 2017 Carlos,I remember your sword ( if it's the same one you first put on the site ) and it's 100%If you look at the sword by Shamsy in post no9 look at the seppa and how poorly it fits and how new it looks ! This is a great and guaranteed genuine Japanese NCO's Type 95 sword that was carried by a career soldier. Used In good condition! I'll continue to post where I find different examples. How the sword is mounted has nothing to do with its age or authenticity. Hi I'm a newly signed up member of the site. swords may likewise not be sharpened down to the habaki; however, most WW II swords were not. I am not sure why the serial numbers are covered? Tokyo First Arsenal blade numbers. National Guard Marksmanship Training Center. It comes with the original bag it came home from the war in. It's a reissued one like one in Fuller & Gregory's book. Upload or insert images from URL. Vice versa, antique blades are occassionally found Screws. Pasted as rich text. to another sword / scabbard. DO NOT UNWRAP THE HANDLE! Grain (hada) is sometimes difficult for beginners to recognize. Matching serial numbers 31123. 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The Scabbardlooks to have some paint left, however it is under the leather cover, which we have not removed, so we do not know how much still remains. This sword is actually pictured on page 191 of Dawson . by differential tempering of the blade. The blade must be examined in its entirety and not judged solely The machine-made blade is 26 inches long. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. http://ohmura-study.net/790.html. The matching serial numbers indicate the sword was taken off kink one side but is overall very good for its age; the locking All the best. I am extremely thankful for the help/knowledge shared in this forum. The overall length is approximately 38 inches in the scabbard. The fuller on a real T95 goes almost to the habaki (collar), the brass part around the blade just above the tsuba/guard. The serial #'s are the best place to focus IMHO. NCO's sword, Kokura arsenal stamp. Etchings. Make the gap between the arsenal marks less! Legal Notice - International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and local laws. In Germany the only plattform for weapons is egun. The sword sheathes and draws very well, and the at the best online prices at eBay! Fakes never get it right. I have been searching for years for a good reproduction of a Japanese Shin-gunto NCO sword. Could someone simply call the most obvious differences from the original? This product is available for international shipping. However, it is ultimately the responsibility of the buyer to be in compliance of laws that govern their specific location. Not just Gunto but Napoleonic ,K98 bayonets you name itSo look out in the future! Your email address will not be published. lonely panet. A World War II Type 95 Japanese Army NCO sword on which the sword blade and scabbard both have matching serial numbers. 20062021 Nihonto Message Board iaito (iai practice sword)? Complete with metal locking spring tab that secures the blade to the scabbard. Scabbard retains around 70% of the original paint. 20062021 Nihonto Message Board The Kokura Arsenal did not produce any Type 95 Shin Gunto but over-saw the production of these swords so its identification stamp is often found on Type 95 swords. It's 40 inches overall, with a 33.5" blade, and weighs roughly two to two and a half pounds, or 101cm with an 85cm blade, and about a kilo for all you metric enthusiasts. Your previous content has been restored. It's also highly unlikely that a replica would have such a wonderfully aged scabbard cover. (Do not remove the rust). Dan. The serial number on the throat of the scabbard, 65830 matches that of the blade. The biggest giveaway are the stamps. Because it's really quite a nice repro, thought I'd better share it here as for reference. The grip still retains much of its brown paint, being approximately 70% intact, and the golden yellow paint on the cherry blossom menuki is approximately 50% intact. You cannot re-wrap the hilt with the silk cord that was removed. The painted handle and scabbard color look very nice, even though there were still some parts not correct compared to the real one, but it will fool a lot of people, like many dealers, there main concern is profit, regardless of the piece being a reproduction. The Americans destroyed a large number of swords by dumping them into the ocean or by melting them. It now takes an expert to tell the difference between a Chinese $25 copy ROLEX and the real deal, right down to the automatic movement. That's why I addressed here. . IMA considers all antique guns offered on our website as non-firing, inoperable and/or inert. The scabbard is painted the correct green color, and the spacing from the top to the hanging ring is the correct 3 inches. But a small percentage made its way back to the United States and into the collector market. Free shipping. Funny story Paul. There are some very knowledgeable and experienced folk here and you can trust their deduction. of forging the blade using multiple folds,etc. All Images and Text Copyright 2003-2023 International Military Antiques Inc. All Rights Reserved. Traditionally this function is assigned to the Habaki (blade collar). A new sword was pointed out to me recently which is very well made and in fact at first glance addresses a lot of the issues with obvious fakes. Blade is 26.25 inches long, with an overall length of 36.25 inches. Paste as plain text instead, like many dealers, there main concern is profit, regardless of the piece being a reproduction. Contact one of them for assistance. Sword steel of the army standard , Blade length: 83.6, Curvature: 1.35, machine made, tempering in oils, with a fuller and no Hamon, Overall length: 100.2, Made in the Tky Artillery Arsenal Type 32 Gunt is a government supply noncommissioned officer sword enacted in 1889 (August 23, Meiji 32). I thought it would be a good idea to post a few old pictures of mine where I highlighted the considerable differences between Type 95 swords. It is said that during battle soldiers would not use the ring but rather would stick the sword through the belt the same way as the Samurai in ancient times. So all of these swords are offered on egun.de, schwertshop.de and other german sellers. The great majority of these swords are made of carved bone, not ivory. signed or not has little to do with determining if it is handmade or the age of the blade. There are numerous Most sword canes were produced in the late 19th Century - early 20th Century. No habaki. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 921(a)(16) defines antique firearms as all guns manufactured prior to 1899. Second the Font isn't even close. The scabbard exhibits about 70% of its original olive brown. Identification Unfortunately, the scabbards serial number does not match the swords . I very much doubt that it would matter, but even someone with a repro would be able to use that information to create a fake. About 80,000 of the Ko sabers were produced between 1899 and 1936, with the lowest reported serial number being 1175 and the highest one being 83390. The scabbards and hilts are usually designed to resemble bamboo I'm not an expert on Japanese swords, so I'll be glad with the maximum information on this Type 95. C $158.47 + C $66.38 . The Mechanix of Auto, Aviation, Militarypert near anything I feel relates to mechanical things, places, events or whatever I happen to like. The saya But as I have been at this for a while, I'm seeing how much better the reproductions are getting, and I realize that every bit of help they can get by reading posts like this, helps them make their fakes even better. sword clubs in many cities. I completely agree with Bill here. Matching serial numbers 31123. The metal of the scabbard has the patina of old iron. the tsuka casting made me look 3 times, but just look at the stamps on the nakago, Ok, a little later I will add a photo of the unpainted serial numbers. These are all machine made and are not classified as "Nihonto". However, it is ultimately the responsibility of the buyer to be in compliance of laws that govern their specific location. It's a reissued one like one in Fuller & Gregory's book. NCO Katanas were issued to soldiers who did not want to take their family sword to battle or who came from poor families that did not have swords to pass down through the generations. As we have a grater passion for and preservation in mind rather then profits as a dealer does. The brown paint on the hilt has mostly worn away, as it did not really stick well to the aluminum. They just copy the real swords they import.Just comment what you like, you are not changing anything. One, they aren't in the correct range. All correct! These items are of World War 2 Historian, Relic Hunter and expert in identification of WW2 relics. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Murasame Katana L6 Steel Hand Forged Steel. This is pure fiction. These take that shape of various dragon figures, Japanese peasants, fish etc. Could this thread please get a Fake tag? It is terrible. By law, Japanese citizens were forbidden to own swords. Sword Shows, Events, Community News and Legislation Issues, Military Swords of Imperial Japan - Ohmura San, Nihonto-Japanese Swords as Art - John Eliyas, The Token Society of GB - Scotland Branch, Nanka Token Kai - Southern California Japanese Sword Society, Japanese Sword Society of the United States, The Society for the Promotion of Japanese Sword Culture (NBSK), The Japanese Sword Society of the United States, Nederlandse Tken Vereniging - Netherlands, San Francisco Nipponto Society *caution. Today I checked, just in case the sword was pulled from sale, and lo and behold there is a 'rare copper handle' now listed, clearly of the same manufacturer. The original thread is gone and buried somewhere and this, Saw these photos of a fake Type 95. If the swords are getting this good I think that's not a good idea. swords. WW II era swords will show prominent grain (hada). There are strategies in place with most countries Customs and Border protection to seize and destroy fake watches, handbags, CD's DVD's etc, but swords are not even on the RADAR. No single indicator alone will determine whether a sword blade is an The first question to be answered - is it a real sword or a modern replica or an Here is another example that's not too bad, but the bohi, stamps (these are most obvious parts) and other details are off. This fine example is a genuine WWII Japanese Type 95 NCO Samurai Sword or katana with aluminum handle construction and machine made blade. Then the horror is the "Ko" stamp! It's a huge tell tale. Serial range could be wrong as well but, I cant see them. The matching serial numbers indicate the sword was taken off the Japanese soldier, not an end of war mass surrender item (swords and scabbards were frequently . / scabbard has quite a bit of its original war time browning and Most soldiers and citizens surrendered their swords to the American occupying forces. WW II era machine made swords have an etched temper line, not a true temper line (hamon) made WWII Japanese Army Type 95 Tokyo Arsenal NCO Shin-Gunto Sword $ 895.00 A World War II Type 95 Japanese Army NCO sword on which the sword blade and scabbard both have matching serial numbers. I have been asked this many times at shows, from dealers and buyers. antique or of recent vintage. good condition, a few small patina streaks, nothing much, and firm Overall a very nice condition WW2 Type 95 NCO Katana that will appreciate in value over the coming years. Sometimes they get irate. The one thing that always sets off alarms on these is the tsuka almost looks blurred or sandblasted, the real NCO's are usually crisp and bold and well defined. I probably say this way too much BUT to flog a dead horse, the NCOs have a ton of small variations between subcontractors and between batches themselves, so just something to keep in mind. NCO Katanas were issued to soldiers who did not want to take their family sword to battle or who came from poor families that did not have swords to pass down through the generations. I ask you to help in determining the authenticity of the sword. . Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for WW2 Type 30 Arisaka Japanese Bayonet Scabbard Straight Quillon Imperial Army No. All NCO swords were numbered. Sometimes they just forget this part. Exploring History with the National Archives Special Media Division. The position of the number on the blade, configured to be read with the cutting edge down, identifies the sword as having been produced by the Tokyo Arsenal (The only other source for the Type 95 sword was the Nagoya arsenal, which impressed the number on the blade in such a way that it is read with the cutting edge facing up). Always check. By law, Japanese citizens were forbidden to own swords. This scabbard also has an original leather field cover, which has discolored and shrunk over time. of no interest to Nihonto collectors other than perhaps as an example of how poorly made a blade locking mechanism works very well. The NMB says so!" 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This sword I shared with Steve (this thread) is a very good knowledge test - the goofy belt hanger (Bruce references) made me discount the sword immediately, but on closer look (my opinion) the stamps are a bit better than the other, cheaper fakes out there on the market. This would fool most entry level guys. or old wood sticks. This is a very scarce and important very early production Japanese Army Type 95 NCO Sword. If there is a tang stamp (see the military sword page for examples) on the nakago, up close to the blade collar (habaki), it is a WW II era sword - these are arsenal stamps. Legal Notice - International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and local laws. The serial number should be near the bottom of the . the Japanese soldier, not an end of war mass surrender item (swords This is a fake for at least two obvious reasons : 1- copper hilted type 95's, or 1st generation T-95's are very scarce and have only 4 digits serial numbers (around 6000 produced). An excellent example of a World War II Type 95 Japanese Army NCO sword that was obviously carried in the field of combat operations. So many repros use Phillips or combination screws, especially on the saya. 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