Spacers are included for length of pull adjustment. Have you ever made a review of the Schultz & Larsen rifle? The also Cerakote the barrel which lowers the need for oiling the metals on your gun, and protects it in rainy or otherwise wet conditions. Franchi designs some very good scatter guns, and this is their first rifle attempt. The reason I am more interested in an AR instead of a bolt action is because: I would like to have an adjustable stock for hunting in multi layers of clothing and backpack straps, the need to adjust my length of pull is important. Do you know a lot about rifles. What matters is on the paper for 550 dollars and a threaded barrel to boot. Yes, thats five rounds as always. or browning. My personal Ruger American shoots 0.8 groups consistently. If you were to build a rifle what action would you use. Premium recoil pad, pic rail, fluted barrel, muzzle breakMOA guaranteed accuracy like the Tikka. 3. and three-stage safety. You have probably heard this before but I am not really a hunter, at least not yet. Is it worth it? . Delsin Rowe is the main protagonist and playable character, a young Native-American man who later realizes hes a Conduit with special powers. Usage for the rifle would be long distance hobby shooting, but also potentially taking it on everything from whitetail up to moose for a hunt should I ever get in to the sport with my brothers and dad. The 300 win mag barrel twist is a little slow, but if you arent going to handload, it should shoot up the 200 grain bullets in factory Ammo just fine. Hi Jim Im trying to click your links to the guns but its not working. The forend felt fat and a bit chunky, and the detachable mag looks like it could get in the way when carrying, hunting, using rests, etc. And I need it in a shorter stock. Fnanchi is most likely the same design since they share ownership. Ive narrowed it to 3, but just cant quite choose. Id say Im in the sub-$1,500 range. I would also love a video on the Winchester model 70 extreme weather! The Vanguard does come in quite a few cartridges, but retail stores will only give them so many spots on the shelves, and since Weatherby is always pushing its own cartridges, its common to not find the chambering youre looking for without special ordering it. As Im new to the shooting world Im still undecided on a long range target rifle. Ive been a little coy about recommending one specific rifle in this price range because its a tight race. Any help deciding? I too had nailed it down to the Savage or the Ruger American Rifle. Even though Im happy with my decision, the Ultralite might have been the better way to go. DK. Great comment, Frank. Fierce rifles are accurate, built well, look great, come with good triggers, and feed perfectly. Im not the person I asked the question but I am also looking at one chambered and 308 and another shop down the road has a 30-06. For some unknown reason it really didnt like Gorillas super nice, match-grade ammo and that entirely unoffensive group above was really horrible by Franchi Momentum standards. But I cant understand why offering left handed guns seems impossible to some manufacturers. Love you work and your research is unparalleled. There are many rifles above the $2k price point. There are very few reviews and almost zero information about how the Howa carbon shoots. Keep the good work buddy on your show. bolt throw. I am looking for a 6.5 creedmoor bolt action hunting rifle for our place in north central west Texas. I\m also looking at the Seekins Havak PH2? Zero quality control issues. I am really interested in a waypoint. If youre into Italian and youre into affordable, but you still want some Ferrari performance at the Fiat price, Franchis Momentum delivers the goods. Plus, it uses an old-school sporter stock that just isnt what todays long-range shooter is looking for. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Capacity: 4+1 Floorplate, spring, and follower tilt out. You made your point. Man I really love your reviews! He lives outside of Austin, TX. Also, since I\d prefer to keep it to one gun I was more interested in buying a semi-custom gun and was thinking about getting the Fierce Carbon Rogue. Thanks. $699.00. The Tikka Superlite 7RM is my dedicated high country rifle, weighing in at 7.1 lbs scoped. I would love to get your take or even see a review on it. Its a Howa 1500 action in their own pretty cool stock. In regards to the Howa 1500 I got one in 300 PRC, it had a Houge stock, I installed a Bell & Carlson, put a Konos M30 on top and got a group the size of a 50 cent piece at a 100 yards. Franchi Momentum 6.5 Creedmoor 24" Flat Dark Earth Bolt-Action Rifle 41512. So it is not a 700 rem action like the Bergara, So no MDT chassis at this time to match. unloaded and 46.7 . Required fields are marked *. Been looking at the franchi momentum has anyone got this rifle ? So how do you choose between them? Same as you, I wish the offerings were a bit better. I dont want it to feel pain or the anxiety of dying slowly. Dumped lots of Deer, Black Bear and Moose with it. The internal box magazine holds four rounds. I am finally biting the bullet and having a custom gun made. Trigger: 2-4 lbs, adjustable, single stage You havent included Winchester in your reviews. Hey Jim, love your reviews and videos, just wondering when we might start seeing 7mm PRC rifles becoming more available in stores? It is aggravating that the stock hugs the barrel on one side, but it doesnt contact on mine. Im really interested in them but can hardly find a proper review of them. Can you do a in-depth comparison review of the CVA Cascade vs. Ruger American? It and the Fierce Rogue are tight competitors. Really, the only thing that keeps me from owning more of them is that I can rarely find them in the chamberings I want. . Watch my review here. I still love wood stocks. Franchi Momentum .300 Win Mag 24" Black / Hunter Gray 4 Rds 41553. Its a great suppressor. First of all, LOVE all of your video reviews !! Im sure the leupold would be better, but for a 700 dollar difference, Ill see how I like the Burris. Im not sure why Bergarra and other premium manufacturers dont do this but Im sure theres a reason. I\ve been perusing the site trying to find it as my rifle should be here today or tomorrow. I found accuracy to be okay but not great, feeding was okay but not great, and the design was usable, but not really modern. Watch my review of the MPR here. I really like the stock design. But honestly these are not deal-breakers (or at least I think so). Manual cover also says- Do not use without reading Manual. Try that some time with a modern made low budget piece of shit. As I completely dislike sporter pencil barrels. James I probably wouldnt recommend Fierce Firearms right now. If a person is willing to invest the money; would you recommend the reaper above all else for a do it all hunting rifle? Savage 110? Cries racism when pointed out that is an idiot. They look standard, dont include fluting on the (rather beefy) bolt or the (rather beefy) barrel, the action and barrel are just blued, the trigger is fine but not outstanding, the action is quite smooth but not as smooth as a Tikka. FRANCHI MOMENTUM ELITE 6.5 CREEDMOOR 24" 3RD BOLT RIFLE - REALTREE EXCAPE / BURNT BRONZE True Price: $ 813.69. Your email address will not be published. You mention that you felt the Browning X-Bolt Pro was not a good fit for a heavy recoil gun. Mine shoots 1/2 MOA with handloads, Available in: 6 Creedmoor, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, .308 Win, Available in: 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, .308 Win, 300 Win Mag. My loads averaging 3050 fps with the 162gr eldx. I could go for a more grabby grip myself, but the Momentums checkering is certainly sufficient. Thanks! In case anyone is wondering and didnt click the link, its available in 6.5Creedmore. Both have cold hammer forged barrels 2. Have to admit I love Henrys, so am trying to take my heart out of the decision with wisdom from someone more experienced like you. We hunt in northern Utah. Id also like to hear more about the threading on the various barrels and if they are suitable for use with a suppressor i.e. Im looking at the Waypoint now. I like the Bergara B-14 ridge. The budget rifle video and cartridge wars are among my fav on YouTube for hunting alone. Hold on to it. Its not for me. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. I enjoy your videos on YouTube, very informative and you dont pull any punches, I like that. Thats unfortunate because theyre chamberimg it in 7PRC. I am looking at loading with heavier grain bullets such as the Berger 30 cal 215 Hybrid or Berger 7mm 180 or 195 Grain bullets. I actually ordered a CVA cascade first, in .308, but changed my mind and returned it and bought the Franchi. Id probably go with the Weatherby, but both guns will be very accurate. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Ill be using it in the Southern Rockies for context. Hey Jim, However, they really dont get enough attention from huntersmostly because they make few attempts to really stand out from the other rifles on the shelf. The Tikka T3 features a standard box 3 round magazine but certain models come with a 4 round magazine. Gun Review: Franchi Momentum Rifle in .308 Win, School Security: As a Parent, Hold Your School Officials Accountable, Campus Carry Celebrates Two Years in Texas, Doomsayer Professors Refuse to Comment, Gun Review: Smith & Wesson Model 317 Kit Gun .22LR Revolver, Oh, The Humanity: Latest Polling Shows a Majority of Americans Now Oppose an Assault Weapons Ban, Smith & Wesson Announces the New M&P FPC Pistol Caliber Carbine. I load for better, but what would you choose? With a Leupold VX-2 3-9x40 scope mounted on Leupold dual dovetail rings and loaded with a maximum of five rounds of ammunition, the Momentum I tested weighed almost exactly eight poundslight enough to carry on long hikes through steep country but not unpleasant to shoot. I have the 2020 waypoint. The data-driven nature of the content is extremely helpful. I know there will be a lot of hate because Ive been very frank about my opinions, but I test so many rifles that I just wanted one single post that I keep up to date where I can just say it how I see it without any politically correct crap. I have shot the Impulse and wasnt impressed. Just easier to carry in hand, never a sling. Would love to hear your review and/or thoughts on military surplus and/or rifles you and friends first started on. Along with it is 2-position safety that . Would you take the Waypoint over the Seekins? I have been considering the Winchester xpr spotter (walnut stock) in 308 Win. Which takes of the other half of recoil . Im well aware that there is stiff competition in the semi-custom rifle category. Would you please review the a CZ 600 Alpha? Torn between CVA cascade or bergara b14 ridge in 7mm-08. Some people get a good one, others get a lemon. Mostly hand carried, thick timber and hills in foul weather. I am from Canada- and watching your channel for quite a time. MSRP:$609 (about $450 retail). I got it in 6.5 creedmoor for deer hunting. Regardless, they should have went with a flush mount magazine like the Axis which, if I may add sells new for a third of the Momentums MSRP in my part of the world. Second is the on top the receiver scope mounts are based on Savage Accutrigger not Remington. In this price range, manufacturers use very loose tolerances and have very poor quality control, so Im careful what I recommend. Im really down to the Fierce Carbon Rival vs the Weatherby MarkV Backcountry. Mine is in 223 for chucks. I looked at the Tikas as well and for the calibers Im looking at, I just think theyll beat the hell outta my shoulder. Accuracy * * * * * When will you be putting the Seekins HAVAK PH2 through its paces? How about a Bergara Wilderness Ridge in 7 mag? And the thought of upgrades on a new rifle seems stupid to me. It weighs a little heavy per the stats, Ill admit but at that price point, its very hard to ignore especially since lightweight after-market chassis can cost as much as the base model B-14, Rem 700, Tikka T3, etc. These are incredible results from a rifle with an MSRP barely over $600! So, here are my quick thoughts on some of the competition for the best premium factory rifle under $2,500. My brother and another buddy bought one (223 and 22-250) because mine shot so well and they had similar results. Adjustable from 2 pounds to 4 pounds, my sample fell right in the middle of that range. I like the reviews on the CVA but the Bergara is hard to beat, the Terrain Wilderness is the one Im leaning towards. What? Bergara seems to have just come out with a Walnut stock maybe as a result of one of you comparing their stocks to garage floors??? Thank you for your time and consideration of this request. I have one in 308 and Federal premium 168grain Berger hunter (or hunter hybrid, cant remember now) shoot less than an inch at 100 yards, but now they are hard to find. If you want a wood stock, metal parts, and nice bluing, feel free to spend an extra $300 or more on a Ruger Hawkeye or similar. Franchi Momentum All-Terrain Elite .223 Rem 18" 1:8" Bbl TrueTimber Strata/Midnight Bronze 10+1 Rifle 41751. The barrel is cold hammer forged with rifling like the Sako (Tikka). These are deal breakers. Yes please, there is a major lack of opinions out there on the LUPO. I believe the momentum rifle could easily stack up against the models outlined in the under $500 category. Your primary con towards the Weatherby was around the cost of the company\s \boutique\ cartridges. Another group was slightly more evenly distributed but similar in size. Its very heavy, the straight pull was difficult to work with and made a few of my shots not go off because I didnt quite push it ALL the way forward. Is it felt more? Ive tried a lot of others, including Hornady PH (178gr I think) and Hornady Match 168 gr, and they are lucky to shoot 4 inch group with huge point of impact change. A very accurate danish produced rifle. Good luck wearing one out with your old ass, you could have the best or worst and it wouldnt matter since its seeing all of a day of use once a season. My arms are a bit short and most hunting rifles are just too long for me, length of pull wise. I really enjoy your reviews and opinions. Both have V block bedding blocks (But Ruger's are Y blocks for pillar bedding the action bolts.) For the record the cheapest gun Ive ever owned is a TC compass in 6.5 Creedmoor and it has shot sub MOA with most factory offerings from day one and consistently shoots sub 1/2 moa with handloads. Very accurate, handles recoil well, and easily in your price point with room to spare. If you want to hunt larger game like elk, then Id recommend getting the same rifle in .30-06 Springfield. what do you think of it? Definitely the most accurate rifle I have owned right out of the box. Fierce Reaper I just love it so much. It also really liked this 147 grain MEN stuff that I bought in bulk cheap some years ago basically just for semi-auto plinking use. The only problem with a Springfield 2020 Waypoint is they dont offer it in enough chamberings. All good options, but Id go with the Cross if youll be using it for any backcountry hunting. I preferred the action on the FME a lil bit over the CVA, but I could not get over how every Franchi had stock contact somewhere along the barrel. The plasticky stock is Pure junk. RECENTLY SOLD View More Data . Hey Jim I recently found your stuff and have been doing a deep dive. Is yours that picky? And have heard mostly good things on it, so I kinda think it was mostly a caliber issue for that gun. Looks to me like an Apples to Oranges request. I have 13 riffles in calibers from 7mm08 , 270 ( my favorite caliber), 300H&H and 300 WM and 300WSM in Weatherby Mark V and Vanguard, Sako, Tika, Winchester model 70 pre 64 and new one, Kleingunther, Browning Xbolt, Browning medallion, BAR in 270 and 300 WM, 7mmMag in Weatherby Vanguard and Sako composite, Bennelli Lupo in 270. Specifically, I am looking at 300 PRC and .28 Nolser, or 300 Weatherby Magnum. This post contains affiliate links to help monetize this site. In fact, I frequently find myself out shooting with a Sig Cross even when I have much more expensive guns that I could be choosing. 80lbs maybe. Keep up the great work. Not many have been around since they are new this year. I use Swaro and Zeiss optics and i use moderators on all of mine. The rings are on a 30mm tube though, which has more surface area pressure from the rings to hold the scope in place. Italian? Unless you spend 4-5 G on a custom built left handed. Also, it works great if you quickly manhandle the action. Stock: AG Composites Alpine Hunter. Benelli Lupo should had definitely made the list Better rifle than most others mentioned in my honest opinion. I just bought a Savage Axis II XP in 308 after much research and debate amongst my hunting partners. That said, the polymer quality and stiffness are better than many. Awesome at this price range. In front of the recoil pad, on the bottom of the Momentums shoulder stock, are two molded-in features: a hand groove grip area for holding the stock with ones support hand while shooting from a rest, and a recessed sling swivel mount. Also 243win, 270 win, 300 win mag and 30-06. Next. I saw you also mentioned something coming at Shotshow but did not see if you talked about this yet. I figured I could get an AR rifle with Sub MOA accuracy that could maybe hit 2 birds with 1 stone. #1. Jim, between the Savage 110 Ultralight and the Weatherby Mark V which would you pick for accuracy? Maybe not, but I have been caught in down pores and all the morons that were with me came back to the car with rust on their guns but not me. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. And true to their ads, it is a sub-MOA shooter. Just a few examples of what is out there on the used market so why in the hell would anyone be dumb enough to buy modern made piece of garbage. Sure, its not always possible. Would love to see your review on the Australian built Lithgow if you havent fired one yet I am sure you will be blown away by it in build quality, accuracy and value considering we are paying $900 for rifles worth $350 in America. I own the X-Bolt in 7mm Magnum and it is fantastic. Never fired, sold it for 600). 2) the 6.5 prc vs the 7 prc ( i have 2 338 win mags i am planning on keeping for elk +), My thoughts? The CVA Cascade is an exceptional rifle for the price. Yes and yes. Will be used for 100-500 yd plinking and occasional deer hunting. have you try the weatherby mark v accumark in 300 win mag? Hard to go wrong with it for online prices often below $400. In the case of the .308 Winchester tested here, its a 22-inch, cold hammer forged barrel with U.S.-standard 5/8-24 threads. I think many of us started on something like that, dads old rifle or grandpas. Vlad is typical progtard. I reload, so Ive been able to work on the load. You sound like the new guy that is 25 and has 150 years experience. Affordable? I was pretty confident in the 110 Ultralight that I found locally for a hair under $1000 but your updates here are making me rethink that. Looking at a Seekins Havak in 300 PRC. I was all ready to order the Fierce but I see your post above and now I am on the fence. 1. can be top loaded, Have you reviewed the werkman? While I believe theyve succeeded in creating a stock that accommodates many different shooting positions and feels above average in all, it doesnt necessary excel in any of them. I have been looking at the 6.8 western. The only downside I see is the weight at 7 plus pounds if your looking for a ultralight mountain rig. They will be on sale at cabelas this next week, and I havent heard that much about them. Lets weed out a few rifles I DONT recommend first. Im in love. So where are you from originally and where are you now..Im thinking not the US. Ill be curious to see them for myself, but Ive heard good things. What about the Winchester Model 70? I am looking at it in 243 but cant decide between that and x bolt. You mentioned it once but I cant find a video where you review it? I am looking to buy a Savage 110 Timberline in 300 win mag, what is opinion about it ? XBolt Pro is a good gun but needs a new trigger. (Live in northern Alberta.) Jan 18, 2020 #3 C clockworkgator I went with the CVA simply for that reason. First let me say your videos are absolutely fantastic. They come in the same price bracket as Tikka rifles but from what I have read, unlike the popular T3X rifles, Sauer 100 rifles I would have to agree that no higher end rifle list should ever not have a Mod 70 or a Sako on it. I have been eyeing the ruger go wild.I like the heavier barrel profile. Thanks for the videos, they have been great! I want to buy a new rifle in 30-06. John did tell me that they are currently working on a fix for the extractor problem. 180 gr Remington tipped core lokt and its in the bullseye out to 400. Unsurprisingly, the Momentum is equipped with a synthetic stock. Ha! I came over the years to loath short action rifles. They do have a more expensive option for a titanium action that is even lighter, but I feel the titanium actions just arent as smooth in the hand. Curious to hear your thoughts/experience with it. I am a huge fan of their 1911s and know they are big into precision rifles. Great choice in a gun. Accurate, lightweight, and comfortable with a great trigger, its a solid choice to fill your freezer this season. I love it. The Sig Cross has really become one of my favorite guns to shoot. Esp in 7mm-08. It looks like a real great gun. (Great videos by the way!!). TIKKA is proven, Franchi has some good reports. It just does everything reasonably well. Jim Harmer is a host of the Backfire Youtube channel. I even bought one Mauser with a shot out barrel knowing it was shot out for $240 dollars complete with scope and had a local gunsmith rebarrel it for me and reblue the whole gun and I had only $600 in it. Thanks for your thoughts and time! Solid brass bullet ,which I really like. Available in six calibers, TTAG gave the $609 MSRP .308 Winchester flavor a test drive. i have a momentum in .308. stock looks a bit odd, but handles my frame very well. Nothing problematic, but clearly noticeable. The reason I put the CVA Cascade above the Ruger American is: (1) It has a better action with more reliable feeding, (2) Its stock is more rigid, (3) It doesnt have a super loud safety like the Ruger American, which I found to be tricky to hunt with. Quality control issues, Im about to send it BACK in for a 2nd time for them to figure out why its damn near impossible to open or close the bolt after a few shots. They are built in the same factory where they produce Mauser and Blaser rifles (all owned by the same company), so I guess quality shouldnt be an issue but unlike Mausers and Blasers, these rifles are far less expensive. Never shot 6.5 but all I hear are good things whats your opinion. Alpha? The stock feels like it is created of a very tough polymer. Anyway, love the Backfire channel. Im holding my breath for the comments section on this post. Commissions are earned for links to Brownell's, Amazon, MidwayUSA, GoHunt, OpticsPlanet, Sportsman's Warehouse, and other retailers. Id go with the Sako in that case. Yes, even if my hunting situation means most shots will be shorter range, I want a rifle that will reach out and make a 250 or 350 yard shot accurately in case it needs to.