The good news is that the hourly wages are above-average. "The price of food is so high, they should be grateful!". Nah man, cars suck. Expect this trend to accelerate in the next 3-5 years. They know how lousy the job market is right now, and Im sure they have a very good idea of what the numbers are going to look like, not only now, but in the coming months and years when it comes to out-of-work pilots. If not enough apply because the pay is too low, then the company can decide if they want to raise their pay. I interviewed with them for cabin crew You must be enrolled at Utah Valley University full-time and maintain 3.0 GPA. We don't really know enough at this point. Get some help. Customer service: Generally speaking, younger hires are friendlier and perkier. The estimated additional pay is $797 per month. Failing that, they were determined to not pay one dime more than their competition. If not the comparison is poor. Thanks for the weird post about the fast food you like, though :). Housing is expensive. Second, the amount of flights they'll even have to offer in their first year or two is relatively small but not surprising for the type of flying they're doingie. Spirit passengers, not so much. Commuting from another city to work is almost impossible when on reserve. so yes their work force has negotiated rates based on the companies success. Many may not have developed interactional skills with customers (passengers) and feel this job can help teach them that skill. Maybe we should let other adults be adults, and them have the freedom to figure out what works well for their own lives. There isn't enough information to know whether this is a good deal or a bad deal for the "part timers" potentially taking this work. After the carrier recently announced the hourly pay offered to pilots, however, the aforementioned description may not be satisfactory. Even the ME3 flight attendants start on a salary of around $3,000 per month plus housing and that is tax-free. There could be plenty of pilots typed and timed in the E-jets whod be willing to take this awhile waiting to get (back) to the majors. Not my kind of thing. The race to the bottom continues. 1) Free Housing! Get real. Flew my 4day trip and took a Delta flight departing at 12:25am to MSP and connected to MDW. Breeze will initially fly 118-seat Embraer 195s, but eventually plans to operate a fleet consisting exclusively of Airbus A220s. Landing June 2023. 1200 a month is laughable and embarrassingly low. The average salary for Flight Attendant at Breeze Airways in the United States is $19.64 per hour, which is 14% below the national average. Let him eat his own crap for breakfast lunch and dinner. Thanks for being transparent that these comments are nearly all from a union organizing push before the airline even launches. These comments are something else. Before we get into the details of Breezes pilot pay, and compare it to pay at other airlines, note that: First year Breeze pilots will make $36,300. Im a bit confused. Even with the limited details we know, its clear Breeze will be different than other airlines, from its approach to hiring flight attendants, to its cost structure, to its fleet. Do they add up for you? Also, Breeze Airways may be a good solution for a pilot who only wants to rack up 55 hours each month with a lighter workload. Salary; Breeze Airways Flight Attendant - Full Time ORF: Breeze Aviation Group: Norfolk, VA: $34K-$53K: Breeze Airways Flight Attendant - Full Time PVU: Breeze Aviation Group: Provo, UT: $39K-$60K: Breeze Airways Flight Attendant - Full Time TPA: Breeze Aviation Group: Tampa, FL: $33K-$53K: Intern Procurement - Summer 2023: Breeze Aviation . /s. Finally, an "internship" employment model has limited potential for growth. Rude, Fat-Fugly, Nasty, Filthy, Unfit. I'm sure safety will be first class on Breeze. Housing and travel to/from work provided. (E-190) Can't wait to see more innovation!! As a former 40 year flight attendant, I can assure you if there is an emergency on board, you will be in much better off and in much more capable hands with a 25-40 year flight attendant than a 20 year old airhead! I am over the moon thrilled! 3.Enough may feel that this is just fine for 1-2 years. And Moron #27 it's an INTERNSHIP.not a career. Will they get pilots? The $1200 a month is not really a salary, but rather a stipend for a college-like experience while interning as FA part time. That minimum guarantee is just that, a minimum. I would have loved an opportunity like this. This airline is banking on their 4 year contract holding up. Sounds like the flights will be mostly out and back the same day, to save $$$ on per diem/ hotel costs. The founder of the airline is David Neeleman, the same guy behind JetBlue. Apart from seeking to keep labor cost for the flight attendants lower than at airlines where seniority translates into wage escalation over time, not to mention other costs such as health insurance, which also becomes more expensive as most of us advance in age, or perhaps even pension costs, since the college interns are envisioned as moving on to other occupations after they age out - er graduate - another benefit of this innovative labor Apart from seeking to keep labor cost for the flight attendants lower than at airlines where seniority translates into wage escalation over time, not to mention other costs such as health insurance, which also becomes more expensive as most of us advance in age, or perhaps even pension costs, since the college interns are envisioned as moving on to other occupations after they age out - er graduate - another benefit of this innovative labor policy for flight attendants just so happens to be maintaining a youthful labor force as seniors depart from - er graduate - their internships and are replaced by freshmen (and women; the term fresh was intentionally omitted as that does not exactly present well given the context). What do you make of these Breeze insights? Not to mention the work ethic or lack of it. Very interesting article, first off there's a lot of people who only want to work part-time and find it exciting to go to different cities. And their policy looks discriminatory to me as it seems to (without directly saying it) exclude any older, experienced flight attendants and those who are married. A huge percentage of new flight attendants leave within the first year. Within a few years, she decided ENT surgery would be somewhat more interesting work and spent more than a decade training up at a resident wages that most union folk would scoff at. A cult, . And I agree with the fellow poster RE: all very young kids, limited work experience not what Id want in an emergency. This is how young doctors learn their craft in America and all over the world. I'll work my fingers to the bone as an intern but a stipend of $1,200 a month won't go far with a medical emergency. 2) housing: I am curious what housing? Look down, "Your Highness". Sounds very ME3. Every Friday Saturday, and Sunday of the month. How many people truly seek out higher prices for labor solidarity? All that said, I'm currently COO for a NON-union airline, and we will make sure we pay our pilots (and all employees) fairly with work conditions and benefits that will never have them needing a union to ask for more. I'm assuming Breeze knows there's going to be a number of unemployed pilots and $77K+ a year is better than unemployment benefits. Take it easy. Could happen. Whats my take? That's the Breeze way. Forgot to add to my previous post that it is two person corporate housing with private bedrooms (think Residence Inn by Marriott, like SkyWest training). You and a friend use your travel pass and visit a city. The airline carrier has opted to utilize a fleet of Embraer 195s. Whatta country! The article also fails to factor in per diem amounts and the tax advantage that goes with that. I cringe at labeling jobs without limitless potential for professional growth as "dead-end". Unfortunatetly, US travel and passenger fare remains an uncertainty. Even if/though they get corporate housing (which could also be really dismal) they've still got to pay for food. No Per Diem. Interesting. While perhaps not quite as controversial, Breezes approach to hiring pilots is also raising some eyebrows, as flagged by @StringAndRuder and @AirlineFlyer. It's not like America's legacy airlines are immune to hiring very young, very inexperienced people. Finally, Breeze needs to get its financial footing or their employees could all be forced out on the street. Feel sorry for the FAs but this guy could be either a genius or just throwing at the wall to see what sticks. My regional airline was a casualty of covid and Breeze seems like a great fit for someone like myself. $1,200 a month is an embarrassment. Death to racist capitalism, Life and good health to the international working class. It's funny, isn't it the view of things changes upon where you're standing. As a retired Flight Attendant after 34 years of service I find this both offensive and sad. And I'm not convinced a bright college student can't get the job done. Are they also going to have INTERN PILOTS to fuel this business plan? But after all these furloughed guys get hired, who then? It's extremely spot on that the second comment on this article was written by a guy whose photo is a selfie in his car while wearing sunglasses. Maybe 3 hours. Maybe Breeze will also supply its people with high-end meals, as Microsoft and Google provides its extremely well-compensated developer workforce. I commuted weekly on Southwest out of MDW got an apartment with 5 other classmates. I don't know if they will succeed, but credit them for thinking outside the box. Yeah.let us be honest.A 25 year veteran flight attendant is not someone most of us want on a flight. They are taking advantage of a market surplus. This number represents the median, which is the midpoint of the ranges from our proprietary Total Pay Estimate model and based on salaries collected from our users. 2) Free Travel! Some can force their way, others will accept any offer out of fear to lose their job. The estimated salary at Breeze Airways ranges from approximately $14,500 per year for Team Leader to $150,907 per year for Director.. Need to use the Robinhood model where PAX fly free or get paid to fly, in exchange for all of their data / information which can be sold for revenue generation. Given that long haul truckers can make that and more, with additional signing bonuses, you must really love to fly and be desperate. Its not gonna work. Can't believe. They have no employees right now and are relying upon applicants to look at the pay and say "Sounds good enough to me." This hasnt been without controversy, though. LSS, the "free market" (which doesn't really exist) isn't designed to change fast enough for a volatile industry like the airlines. There are almost 1000 E175/E190 type rated pilots from ExpressJet and Compass. That sounds part time and probably better since you are getting paid for all of your time. I interviewed at Breeze a few months back. $1,200/mo if you have 15 days off and $1,400/mo if only 10. Our normal business hours are Monday-Friday 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. (Pacific Time). This year is unique in pilots employment, but when the majors start hiring again, they will love poaching all the pilots from Breeeze! ), what most likely happened after you got your paralytic and your anesthesia is some slightly tired, fresh-face resident came in to practice his/her craft on you. This article mentions and quotes minimum monthly guarantee, but fails to show the pay for picking up extra flying. I wonder if their First Class will have free food and drinks (like JetBlue) or if they're taking the Spirit Big Front Seat approach. Great article !!! These days she brings home a little bit more than that: she earned it. But lets say you have a couple of days off. Our business address is: Breeze Airways First Officers: $62,000 by year six, JetBlue First Officers: $117,000 by year six, Breeze Airways Captains: $94,000 by year six. The estimated total pay for a Flight Attendant at Breeze Airways is $4,639 per month. Every job would hire people at less than half pay and call them interns if they could get away with it. When it comes to Breeze Airways, theres good news and bad news. To that end, it's not that much different than regular college life (many students work part time), but you won't burden yourself with huge college debt because those kids won't have to worry about tuition and housing. Login Support. What sets Breeze Airways hourly salaries apart is the monthly hourly guarantee, which is only 55 hours, or at most, $7,865 per month before taxes (for Captains in their sixth year). It does sound like not much at the moment, but I think the idea behind it, that for a starting Airline and in the pandamic, to only offer 55h minium is understandable. To airline pilots is there anything Im missing here that would make Breeze an attractive employer? Even liberal-minded folks who support workers grow to hate the rhetoric surrounding unions and union actions. 3 Your speculation about FA rest and workload is also rank speculation. 2) Free Travel! I can just imagine the sick calls on the weekends. Sure, theres the free market, but this also seems borderline exploitative. P Glotzer (United States) 1st March 2023. Aviation is amazing!! You can work at a lot of fast food places and now get $15 an hour plus benefits. The concept does turn on to be "too good to be true" at least for me, just based on the insurance matter alone. Our Pilots are overall Leaders who safely take care of our Team Members and Guests. I'm sure Breeze will find plenty of young, naive college students who sign up for this, not realizing what they are getting themselves into. 1) Free Housing! At 55 min, it seems like a part time job. 2. I'm a 'union guy' for sure. Therefor your flight attendant is going to be exhausted/probably not happy and definitely not rested enough to perform optimally in an emergency. Classes are 100% online. You could sit around half a day, everyday, and not get paid for it. However, in reality thats not hugely different than the schedules that flight attendants work at other airlines full time. $1200 per month is a crime. Does this really qualify as an "internship"? Or maybe the extension to San Francisco's Oakland Bay Bridge, built entirely in China, shipped across the ocean in pieces, and bolted together by 100% American union labor for a living wage. How many people can't afford to start a new business or begin a new endeavour because they are tethered to their current employer solely because of the insurance.