Three times during my young life I was sent away to residential schools for being undernourished while just before my 14th birthday I was put away in an approved school (in 1963) for a large number of burglaries. In 1136, when Glasgow Cathedral was formally consecrated, King David I (112453) gave to the See the lands of Partick and also of the church at Govan (on opposite sides of the River Clyde), which became a prebend of Glasgow. Bought my sweets from The Modern Book Shop and Woolworths. The police discovered an empty flat on the eighth floor which would give them a birds eye view of the entrance to Burnsides tenement flat close. Alley & Vine will be ready for outdoor and indoor dining once allowed, but until then, customers can order online or by phone for takeout and curbside pickup. [30] British Shipbuilders' sale of Govan to the Norwegian firm was completed in 1988, and the yard was renamed Kvaerner Govan. If there is anyone out there that remembers me please contact me :). contact the editor here. Community organisation. Glorious Govan. So, at the age of 46 I started three years of studies with projects that involved Govan Initiative and Glasgow University until I was finally accepted as a full-time student at Glasgow. Laurel Brook. Without a home, mankind has no place. Ai uitat contul? It was regarded at the time as perhaps the worst slum in Britain, and the people who lived there were treated like vermin by the authorities whom we treated likewise. Dry Docks Cafe. Yup I'll always be from Govan even though we lived a bus ride with the messages away from it in Shieldhall, that was situated near to the 50 pitches, I remember well my Dad and me watching the shipyards football competitions. This is a small family owned and operated place. My paternal grandfather was an engine keeper for the Phoenix Copper Works, and lived on Brighton Street. Almost went to St Anthony's primary. The latest victory for the SNP was in the 2007 Scottish parliamentary elections, when Nicola Sturgeon became the MSP for the constituency. He was able to give police precise details of the drug operation Burnside was running and the names of his associates. Their children's names were John, Michael, Christopher, Bridget and Edward. They were followed there and back by a second surveillance team and the vehicle stopped near Ibrox. My dad was taken in to see the wee boy, turns out it was me. Not Now. From Rushden we came back to Larbert, then to Lauder. 199310 Scottish Charity No. Create New Account. In its turn, this attitude helped create the malignant tales about people who lived there as being nothing but thieves, layabouts and drunks. Men and Boys by Hugh Cavanagh. I now live in Brydekirk village but I'll never forget Govan. Poor Man, he said to my Mother, "the way she's trying to kick me I think her hips are fine". I cleaned it up and he must have been watching, as he came back out to see if I had done well. It was followed by an undercover drugs team down the M8, onto the M74 and over the border into England. Eventually, my dad arrived asking if anyone had handed in a wee lassie. I was born Jan 6th 1951 and brought up in flat above Co-op in Helen Street at Govan Cross, I Went to Harmony Row and Hills Trust Primary schools before moving to Pollok when I was 10 .I have 4 brothers Dave, Bobby, Shuggie, all born in Govan ..and Alastair born in Pollok. We had and still have such a loving family even although our parents and grandparents have passed, but Govan made us that way because it was a great community and you knew who your neighbours were. Get into Govan. My gran was Ella Campbell who lived in Greenfield Street during the 50s and 60 s. When they checked the mileage they realise it was being used for much longer trips of up to 600 miles a time. Hi Catherine, I also lived at 100 Harmony Row and also live in Canada. [14] in 1901 the Burgh boundaries increased further west to include Linthouse and West Drumoyne. I remember Vogue would show two part Westerns that made us come back the following Saturday to find out who won the fight, there was also an entertainer named "uncle Harry" who would go up on the stage when the movie was over and ask us to wave our white hankies that we were asked to bring, we would all stand up and sing "Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag" before we left. In 1855, an elaborately carved sandstone sarcophagus was found during digging in the churchyard. 124m D.C Hair&Beauty . This is a 12th-century Latin source, but one believed to be based on much earlier materials; it records a place near Dumbarton Rock named Ouania. Knowing a house which was empty he pre-emptively sought approval from the council to use it as part of the operation. It was later in 1974 that she began her Stairhead Seminars in the so-called "Wine Alley" area of Govan which led, in 1976, to the Govan Project. These incomers earned the contempt and resentment of some disgruntled local inhabitants, who focused on problems of anti-social behaviour in the estate, which acquired the nickname "Wine Alley". I met him at our place of employment. [10][11], The area was associated with Junior football team St Anthony's who had two grounds in the area. The partnership works by: No1seems2care. We love it here, but still go back to Scotland every other year. Third, the importance of housing management services such as concierge or neighbourhood warden duties are understated in the document, and they are not considered as playing a core public service in the maintenance and upkeep of the areas they service.10 Servicii comunitare. I spent a lot of time at my granny's while growing up I remember we used to get payed for watching the cars when there was a game on at Ibrox. [4] In 1864, Govan gained burgh status, and was the fifth-largest burgh in Scotland. The plan was to video and record any deals as they happened - a tricky and dangerous proposition. C/o Jones Lang LaSalle 150 St Vincent Street Glasgow G22 5ND AGENT Jones Lang LaSalle 150 St Vincent Street Glasgow G22 5ND WARD NO (S) 52, Govan COMMUNITY COUNCIL 02_073, Govan CONSERVATION AREA LISTED ADVERTTYPE Bad Neighbour Development PUBLISHED 24 October 2003 SITE AND DESCRIPTION With five suspected drug dealers in the cells and 200,000 worth of heroin seized, it had been a very productive day for the police. The two men, working for up to 18 hours at a time, had to be smuggled out before dawn each day. In fact, Glasgow Corporation was so determined to place many of the cities socially deprived into Moorepark that they even advertised for them in the newspapers. I remember the following; sitting on the kerb at the mouth of the close playing with the soft tar on the road in the summer with a stick and my mum using melted butter to get the stains of our clothes, playing peever with a shoe polish tin, making up little shows which we all performed in the high backs ,climbing over the pailings, and often getting our knees impaled on the sharp spikes at the top, playing balls against the wall singles and doubles too, climbing onto the steamie roof and jumping onto the pub roof dodging the barbed wire spikes, playing ropes singles and doublers, and swinging on the telephone wires above the low back steamie roof, Summertown Road steamie and baths. It was dedicated to St Constantine, who had been buried at Govan. It never surfaced again until Lil Feeney came looking for me (who I had known from Govan Initiative) and asked me if I would be interested in helping to write a Report on poverty and deprivation (along with herself and Brian) inspired by Darners book on the same theme. 3.75/4 3.75 / 4 (0 reviews) Staff Knowledge & Friendliness 4/4. I was so focussed what was in front of me, I never looked behind me and I disappeared over the edge. There was a chapel in the parish at Partick. I remember the Neptune Street bakery was always flooded and full of cats but people would still queue up outside it. Naturally the slum dwellers of Govan, who though it their right to have most of the new house in their own locality, were angry and outraged at their expectations being ignored by the authorities. People lived with the inconsistency in the records. alebo. Just looking for anybody who new the Paterson, dad george known as Geordie and mum Betty, sisters Elaine, Brenda and brother George. I remember a chemist called Brays on Govan Rd. [27], In 1971, Upper Clyde Shipbuilders went into receivership and the Conservative government led by Edward Heath refused to give them a 6,000,000 loan. Police Scotland. Glasgow Braendam Link, Pearce Institute, 840 Govan Road, Govan, Glasgow, G51 3UU 11 Barr, 1997, p. 47-58 12Dailly, 2005, p. 8 When they married on the 29/4/1939 they moved to Hillington. Then there was the shake the blanket with my older sisters and friends my turn wasn't coming fast enough so as usual I was whining so they gave me my turn and shake the blanket shake the blanket 1-2-3 they lifted me in the air and let the blanket go results bleeding nose and they all got a right telling off. Therefore, the purpose of this Reflection is to make a contribution to the discussions on community planning and have the thoughts of people who have lived through other Contact Us. Two associated Christian burials are radiocarbon dated to the 5th or 6th centuries, making Govan the earliest known Christian site in the region. Within it and its roughly circular churchyard is one of the finest collections of Early Christian stones in the United Kingdom, known as the Govan Stones, dating from the c.9th to 11th centuries. Don't think I enjoyed my time at Govan High, who did but I remember the english teacher Johnny Duncan, Jock Reiburn (maths), who was strict but gave me a good basic knowledge of algebra which stood me in good stead for my future in engineering. They share a rivalry with St Anthony's F.C. By the 1860s, the village needed a higher order of administration and it was made a burgh in 1864, under the General Police (Scotland) Act 1862. Acumfaegovan born and brought up on Langlands Road with my sisters Susan and Elaine Wilson by my wonderful parents Vera and Bill Wilson. This was the catalyst that led local Govanites into despising the peoph of Moorepark, and considering them as different and alien. In 1901 Govan was the 7th largest town in Scotland. Unresolved: Release in which this issue/RFE will be addressed. [16] In 1912, Glasgow annexed Govan after a series of annexation battles. My mum's brother Spinx (George Hewitt) stayed in Teucharhill and my dad's brother Alex Rodgers drove a milk float. Further, that by becoming involved in social, political, and economic activities, the community of any area can organise itself in such a fashion as to understand that community, or collective power is real. Burnside also appeared to take sadistic pleasure in watching them scrabbling about on the ground looking for their hit. Sad to see Govan now but many happy memories. Govan was the site of a ford and later a ferry which linked the area with Partick for seasonal cattle drovers. Verejnoprospen prce. Jackson had only just taken charge of the CID at Govan, having left his post as head of Strathclyde Polices serious crime squad. We left govan to go to Drumchapel. 99m New Cafe India Govan . The answer is 1 authority is necessary because it plays an indispensable mediating role at local and city level through bringing togeth locals and officials. Burnside, 42, known as the Godfather, lived on the top-floor flat of his tenement. Good times we had, wonder where they all are now and if they remember me. Our first daughter was born in 1962, and then when she was six months old, we went to Toronto, Canada. [6] Govan is believed to have then been part of a kingdom ruled from Dumbarton Rock, known as Alt Clut, the rock on the Clyde. I noticed a post by Murray G. Wondering if we might be related at all? Govan Old Parish Church was rebuilt in 1762, 1826, and again 1884-1888. What a memory. The evidence they gathered was crucial and the jury was able to see the gang operating on the video footage shown to them. I loved it there we could watch the ships being built and then launched from the bedroom window. We all loved living there as Govan was such a great place and had everything you needed, especially four cinemas. I was born and brought up in Drumoyne. Smith did know Glasgow well, but Edinburgh (where he later worked as Secretary to the University) was gloriously exotic. I've been back to visit my relatives several times, but the old places are gone. These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. 4, Soon, the housing scheme had a bad name. Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering Company was renamed Govan Shipbuilders in 1973. See more of Sunny Govan Memories on Facebook. Marconi Electronic Systems and its Marconi Marine unit were sold to British Aerospace in 1999 to form BAE Systems. Wine Alley by Colin Quigley. I went to St Anthony's then St Gerard's and was there at the same time as Billy Connolly though he is a year older than me. I lived at 73 Nethan Street, Govan. on our backs to the midden motor outside the closes or houses where we worked. There was another pub next door, The Bellrock. (was it Grant's????? We used to listen to all the records being played from Munleys on a Saturday morning. We went this year to the Fairfield shipyard museum which was very interesting. Also, among the plans for Govans hub was a programme to make Govans main shopping area more attractive such as joining Govans Market, Shopping Centre, Underground and bus depot together under the one roof. [25], Govan was at one point the centre of the world-renowned Clydeside shipbuilding industry. I screamed blue murder, he wanted to pull my pants down, but no way I letting him do that to me. Yes Danny, Hamilton Street was renamed to Nethan Street between 1931 and 1932. Nestled among the quaint streets Also remember when we started school in 1943, we had to carry our gas masks with us. We would have concerts and the money raised would organise a trip to the seaside for the kids of the area. Does anyone remember my dad Iain Campbell and mother Margaret Marshall born 1921 and 1922? We loved the years living there and in 1949, our little sister was born at 22 Shaw St., That same year we moved to Penilee, but when my sister and I were seventeen, our parents moved back to Govan because the house in Penilee was very damp, so our parents got an exchange to a house on Govan Rd., the cooperative building next to Fairfield's shipyard. Related Pages. We didn't have an inside toilet but had to use one on the landing which served two other families. My husband and I ended up going into the USA. The School that was situated at the end of Cowie Street was the "Wee Lamby" or Lambhill Junior Primary. First, if the government are to tackle inequality and the centring of disadvantaged groups, then they will have to understand that it is the housing system itself that creates it. Anyone know the Maguire family from Logie Street and 147 Langlands Road? Moore Park (Glasgow University Library, Special Collections, Dougan Collection, 1870), OS 25 inch Scotland, 1892-1905 (Moore Park), "Glasgow, Govan, Moorepark Housing Estate", Gender and Political Identities in Scotland, 1919-1939, Ian Jack: Problem Families (review of 'From Moorepark to Wine Alley: The Rise and Fall of a Glasgow Housing Scheme' by Sean Damer), Debate: Housing and Local Government (Scotland), Poverty, deprivation and development in working class communities, Photo of Benburb F.C. I was a deckhand on the TSS Shleldhall sewage ship that sailed down the Clyde every day Monday to Friday to the tail of the bank, there we discharged the load then made a circle before heading back up home. The first was an experimental improvement programme, which had the initiatives: the partial modernisation of the houses, the re-planning of the external environment, and the construction of a Tenants Hall. 14 Riverside Changes, 2005, p. 1 Pieces 'n Jam and a Bottle of Water climb on top of a Air Raid Shelter and have a picnic, Aye happy days and not a Tablet or Mobile phone in site. Somewhere, communication had broken down so completely, that while the latter felt powerless to do anything about the situation, the remedies of the former only made the situation worse. I was born in Neptune Street, Govan in 1947, my father was Paddy Kelly and my mother Annie, my elder brother was Dick and my younger brother Brian. I also went to the Glasgow City Mission which was in Kintra Street, how I loved my childhood. Govan railway station opened on 2 December 1868. Lots of other good memories but also remember the terrible fires which took place. My family lived at 100 Harmony Row, Govan until I was 10 (born 1953), I lived there with my father Guido Gonnella, my mom Susan, brother William and sisters Helen Marie and Susan also lived with us. 11 a.m.-8 p.m. Monday . ', "1881 England Census, The London Charterhouse, St Sepulchre Without, London, p.6 RG11/344", "University of Glasgow:: Story:: Biography of Jimmy Reid", "Aircraft and Shipbuilding Industries Act 1977 (c. 3) Schedule 2 Shipbuilding Industry", Govan Maps 1857-1934, National Library of Scotland, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Govan&oldid=1127691800, Wikipedia articles incorporating a citation from the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica with Wikisource reference, Short description is different from Wikidata, Articles containing Scottish Gaelic-language text, Articles with MusicBrainz area identifiers, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 16 December 2022, at 03:51. However, the local paper still remained hostile, hypocritical, and unhelpful about the whole idea. Non-governmental organisations working in the field such as the Church, charitable organisations, etc., have for a long time advocated Community Planning or management of the urban environment as the best solution to this problem of how to give a better quality of life to many of the citizens of our country. Creeaz un cont nou. Media/news company. He also had a shop in Govan Road and he lived at 31 (I think) Copland Road, his name was Robert Reid and he had 2 daughters, Jane my mother and her sister Molly who lived for years in Merryland Street before it was pulled down. In recent years it has seen major improvements with the building of Glasgow Science Centre and the Glasgow Arc, better known as the Squinty Bridge. I lived in Elderpark Street and the Wine Alley. Very fond memories. Nobody like them in the World. I remember the baths and went there every Friday, I also remember playing in the street and when the coalman came my mum and I would follow him with a pram and pick up any coal that fell of the lorry. It seemed a dangerous idea but worth the risk if they could dent a hole in a major heroin dealing operation. He had a broken leg, but we cuddled and comforted him until someone with a car was found, hours later, to get him to the vets. When in trouble the Govanites all come together. Moorepark was demolished and converted into an industrial estate in the 1990s, along with a nearby contemporary development at Teucharhill which had a similar tough reputation. Not Now. Conecteaz-te. A great place to live. Ah! I remember at one time there were thirteen of us staying in the house including the lassie across the street who came to stay for a night and more or less remained there for about five years. We sold puppies, kittens, mice, fish and I promise you, they were cleaned and cared for with the tenderest of love and care, and caution was exerted when people tried to buy them. I went to Greenfield then Govan High left school in 1975 and worked in Govan shipyard canteen my mates wee Calum McLean, Brian Lavoury, Billy Cameron, Tam Reid, Jim Reynolds and Stephen Gourley now living in England. I have many happy memories of Govan. We loved it there and had best times growing up in Govan, a great wee community and a great bunch of people, neighbours were great and we had lots of great friends to play with. It meant that the police had two key surveillance points, one in Wine Alley itself and a second from the high-rise. I worked in Fairfields in the seventies, does anyone remember the name of the bike shop at the Linthouse end beside the roundabout. For Margaret Gibson - I saw that you lived in Kintra Street until 1960 and wondered if you knew my grandmother Mary McGill/Johnston who lived at 110 Kintra Street in 1956. The scheme was codenamed Operation Buckfast after a brand of tonic wine popular in the area. The wines were delicious but unfortunately out of my price range.